"I've been doing this job for 40 years, I know how to weld."

"My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword) 01/24/2019 at 14:19 • Filed to: None

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Clearly. Stack of dimes on that one.

Also, It’s cast aluminum. Which I know is a notoriously poor material to try to weld with. So yes, I am going to inspect it, especially since bolt tightening is a tough job for you.

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farscythe - makin da cawfee! > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:22

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hrm... not sure i’d trust that to be loadbearing vor very long

Chinny Raccoon > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:23

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Preparation ? What’s that?

Discerning > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:24

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Bi g old booger welds

Spanfeller is a twat > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:26

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Jesus, thats worse than my soldiering and I suck at it.

My bird IS the word > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 01/24/2019 at 14:29

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I mean, it’s just holding an alternator. Shouldn’t be too bad.

My bird IS the word > Chinny Raccoon 01/24/2019 at 14:30

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That would imply that he is sorry he fucked it up in the first place.

Chariotoflove > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:30

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Well, ability, knowledge, and effort are three different things.

Hopefully this is functional and you can wash your hands of this shop.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:31

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Should probably hold for a good long while , gumminess notwithstanding. Should have been cleaned first, of course, and will require grinding for where bolts seat.

My bird IS the word > Chariotoflove 01/24/2019 at 14:31

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I could tell the other guy at the shop wanted to apologize but couldn’t. Still not going back.

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:34

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1) clean joint and do a pr ecise fit up.   2) hold a chicken directly over workpiece.  3) squeeze chicken.  4) profit!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:37

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My BIL who has welded like... half a dozen times, ever... could take this schmuck to the cleaners with one eye closed.

My bird IS the word > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 01/24/2019 at 14:38

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In this case I am actually happy there is more material. Might actually give it some more strength.

Future next gen S2000 owner > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:44

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What is that part for?

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:44

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That might be the worst aluminium welding I’ve ever seen. That looks.... almost like he just spooled up some aluminium wire in his MIG welder and went at it (and without cranking up the gas) .

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2019 at 14:48

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I have done worse aluminum welding than that, but in my defense, it was not only the first time I’d welded aluminum but also on a piece that was less than a millimeter thick and corroded. It was nearly a miracle I managed to pull it off.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:48

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i dunno... i mean... it snapped once before.. and it was full strength back then

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:51

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aah never mind.. just read your previous post...

yeah.. i understand it snapping now... you should be fine

diplodicus forgot his password > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:51

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Worst case ontario you could use that as a template to have another shop machine a new one.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:54

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I could excuse the bugger welds on aluminum if there was evidence of prep. Ideally it would be cleaned at least an inch out from the weld zone, then ground to a 60 deg bevel and have a stack of dimes on each side. So to confirm, yes this does look like shit and I would probably buy a new one if possible.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 01/24/2019 at 14:54

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I should’ve probably prefaced it as the worst aluminium welding I’ve seen done professionally. 

jimz > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/24/2019 at 14:54

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the chicken could weld better than that.

SPAMBot - Horse Doctor > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 14:58

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Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > jimz 01/24/2019 at 14:58

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My aluminum welding is sub par,  that’s why it’s not for sale,  I can’t say I’d do any better,  but I know a bead of chicken shit when I see one. 

My bird IS the word > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/24/2019 at 15:11

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Noone makes new, used they are 80 $. I'm sure it would be easy to fab out of steel but I work out of my parents driveway so no chance there.

My bird IS the word > Future next gen S2000 owner 01/24/2019 at 15:13

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Rear alternator mounting bracket

My bird IS the word > diplodicus forgot his password 01/24/2019 at 15:14

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Could probably fab something myself if I had tools/space

NKato > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 15:19

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 I'd just chuck the 80 bucks at getting a used, intact piece. If I had a Haas mill for personal use, I'd clone that plate in a jiffy.

My bird IS the word > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2019 at 15:21

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But, he knows how to weld! Don't tell him how to do his job.

xyzabc > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 01/24/2019 at 15:26

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At least there’s no  Duct T ape on it....

WRXforScience > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 15:27

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You might have been better off just JB Welding it back together.

CalzoneGolem > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 15:33

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You should really take a close look at the rest of that engine. 

My bird IS the word > NKato 01/24/2019 at 15:40

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I feel like it would just be easier to make out of steel.

My bird IS the word > CalzoneGolem 01/24/2019 at 15:41

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I plan on it. Although, that presents its own difficulties. 

kanadanmajava1 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 01/24/2019 at 15:44

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I can use TIG welder but I do know that welding fa irly thin oxidized aluminum is beyond my skills. I once tried to fix a broken o xidized alternator bracket and I truly regret tr ying. This is way better than  I could have done.

CalzoneGolem > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 15:47

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If you have stuff in writing he didn’t do I’d put the screws to him and get a lawyer. But after this repair I don’t you’ll get anything out of this guy without effort.

nerd_racing > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/24/2019 at 15:52

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you don’t grind aluminum when prepping it for weld.  Abrasives are a no-no.  They stick in the material and contaminate.  You want metal cutters that won’t smear the soft metal either.  

EngineerWithTools > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 16:00

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My inner mechanical engineer wants to drone on about how aluminum has lousy fatigue strength to begin with, the heat affected zone has lost any temper and the weld geometry introduces stress concentrations that weren’t part of the original casting, but...

Ehh, it wasn’t exactly a refined aircraft part to begin with, the weld metal is probably much stronger than the base metal, there may not have been any temper to begin with, the load is light, and while it is guaranteed to fail eventually (every aluminum part is), it will probably live a long life in this state. I’d use a flashlight and some cleaner to inspect it for cracks at every other  oil change but otherwise use it happily.

NKato > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 16:04

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I didn't say it'd be aluminum. 

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > kanadanmajava1 01/24/2019 at 16:10

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The pieces in question were the treadplates for the front doors of my Galaxie. Available in reproduction only for two-door cars, as in the picture below:

The rolled carpet-retaining edge on my pieces was corroded badly over about half the length, so I bent some thin aluminum stock over a piece of tubing as a template, bent a flange, cut off the old edge where damaged, and welded my new pieces to the back side... which was the more corroded side.

I did the work with a spool gun, aluminum wire, and argon gas - not TIG.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > nerd_racing 01/24/2019 at 16:14

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Carbides and a wire wheel dedicated to aluminum. Take your time, keep moving, don't melt the base. Voila. Done.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 16:15

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That guy can go fuck himself with the business end of his welder.

My bird IS the word > CalzoneGolem 01/24/2019 at 16:16

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Im just praying that the engine is ok. Lawyer is out of the question this would be small claims court.

kanadanmajava1 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 01/24/2019 at 16:17

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Maybe my c ompany gave me too much beer today (special treat) . That did look completely TIG welded to me. Off to bed...

Future next gen S2000 owner > My bird IS the word 01/24/2019 at 16:26

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Don’t worry, it will eventually fail anyway regardless of the quality of the weld . You’ll be fine.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > kanadanmajava1 01/24/2019 at 16:32

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The one in My Bird Is The Word’s post was TIG welded, certainly. I was saying that I had done my project with a spool gun - the difficult thin work.

kanadanmajava1 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 01/24/2019 at 16:47

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A luminum can be a ho rri ble material in unsuitable conditions. If I ever need to we ld an used aluminum parts I’ll sandblast t hem clean before trying to weld.